I haven't tried the oder stuff yet but heard great things.. My gliders never liked the complete and I was about to give in and change diets. I lost my my 1st glider in Feb. and it truly broke my heart.. I miss him badly. I rescued a little girl but she and Axl are not bonding which is also very upsetting but she absolutely loves critter love. And Axl has bn watching her so he too is cleaning it up.. They may not get together but they are eating healthy